Posted by: robotnews | April 6, 2006

RoboCup Humanoid League – what is it all about?

NT050332W, Przemyslaw Kryczka

“Ladieees and gentlemen!! We have year 2050 now and are going to witness the first in the universe match between the best players of our planet and the team of the humanoid robots… no grandpa you don’t need to tune your hearing aid I really said robots!! Who fifty years ago would think it will really happen? …”

Short introduction

The official goal of the RoboCup[1] initiative is: “By the year 2050, develop a team of fully autonomous humanoid robots that can win against the human world soccer champion team.” The project entails development of soft computing, sensor-fusion, robotics and other related branches of science. Thanks to the clearly specified goal which is far beyond the contemporary science abilities it can bring many innovations applicable in industry as well as in social live.

Main constrains:

– the robot proportions should be as close as possible to that of human being (exactly specified in rules[2]).
– each of the implemented sensory systems must have its equivalent in human being. Only the vision and audio sensors are allowed for localization and all the environment recognition purposes (no infrared, radar and ultrasonic sensors are allowed). In addition, these sensors should be mounted in places of their equivalents in human being.

Main challenges:

– real time vision recognition – the robot in order to play soccer must be able to localize and track the play ground, goals, global localization as well as the exact posture of other players and finally the ball.
– dynamic gait – in order to be able to speed a human being robot must be able to run, what by its definition enforces use of dynamic gait.
– multi-agent systems – as soccer is team game the cooperation between team members is crucial for winning the game. The particular agent must know its position and function in the whole game.

Current stage:

During the last competition in Osaka 2005 robots have been divided into two size groups and had to face such events as: penalty kick, 2 vs. 2 and technical challenge. In upcoming competition in Germany there will be additional ball dribbling and ball passing events. These interested can find the rules here.

After reading this blog you surely have a lot of questions. I have done it on purpose! Perhaps you think the final game will never take place or it is waste of money to do research in this area. Don’t hesitate just write it in comments!!

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Responses

  1. FIRA(Federation of international robot association) also has Hurosot Competition.www.fira.net.

    Also, can you in detail illustrate
    what those humanoid robots need to achieve or perform during the Robocup comepetition?
    Also thousands of dollars spent on those robots, is there any reserach value? can you state some to clear some of the doubts

  2. NT050332W Przemyslaw Kryczka

    Nice to here so fast response.

    Yes that’s right, FIRA also organises humanoid league, however its attitude is less toward the soccer.

    I will try to shortly describe each event.

    Penalty Kick – robot is set on the play ground in certain distance from the ball. After referee’s signal robot is supposed to walk towards the ball and kick it to the goal with goalkeeper.

    2 vs. 2 – this time there is four players on the playground. Usually (however it is not imposed by the rules), two of them play the role of the goalkeepers and the rest two play on the whole ground. At the beginning of the game the ball is set in the middle of the play ground. The starting team is chosen by tossing a coin. After referee’s signal the game begins. The team which score higher number of goals is announced a winner.

    Technical Challenge – in the upcoming competitions in Germany there are going to be three technical challenge events:
    Rough terrain – robot is supposed to walk across the field maid of the hexagons. The highest brick has 24mm.
    Dribbling around the poles – during this event the three poles are set on the play ground. Robot is supposed to dribble the ball from the goal, then around the poles and finally return back to the starting goal.
    Passing – there are two robots on the play ground from the same team. The robots are supposed to move along the field middle line and pass the ball to one another. For better understanding you can take a look at the figure in rules (Fig.5 – page 16).

    As for the research value, if you will take a closer look to each of the events you will notice that behind each of them there is some engineering challenge. e.g. development of omni-directional vision, servo motors( in last three years the maximum generated torque changed from 20kgcm to 75kg.cm) and other. Of course, RoboCup is not the only reason of these developments, but it gives students and scientists a chance to connect their quest for knowledge with fun.

    I hope I have answered your questions at least partially.

  3. u0303505 Pham Dang Khoa

    Such a nice post, Przemyslaw! I can feel your passion for robotics in this post:)

    I myself believe that the final soccer game between robots and human beings would become true in the future, as human can do so many things today that nobody might even think of a few decades ago. Jus hope that it would come soon so that I can watch:)

    I think that it’s worth very much spending thounsands of dollars on those robots. Although these robots are developed for competition (i.e mainly for entertainment purpose), it can bring many innovations that are useful for the industry as well as our daily life since the new technologies invented in these robots can also be applied in other types of robot. Some example are vacuum cleaning robots or robots used in goods manufacturing.

  4. u0205352 Lim Lipien

    Basically, I also feel that with the advancement of technology, the game between human and robot will become a reality in the future. The question of speculating which side will be the winner will be a much debatable issue now till 2050.

    However, I believe very strongly that the talent,looks, charisma and attributes of famous human soccer players such as Wayne Rooney,Ronaldinho can never be found in robot soccer players.The reason is simply because the talent of these individuals is simply irreplacable and unique. This is one of the important reasons which make the human football game so attractive nowadays to watch. Thus, I feel that the clash between two human opposition sides will be still be a much nicer game. Do anyone agree with my view?

  5. NT050332W Przemyslaw Kryczka

    You are right Lim Lipien, humans have something what robots, so far, don’t have and probably will not have in this and few next decades. This is their original and individual thinking, as well as talents (except the fact that they are designed for particular purposes, but this is something completely different). However, I would say that this is one more challenge, to make them somehow individual. Unfortunately, together with the individuality comes the question how far we can let them to ‘think’ individually to not make them dangerous for human being. This is very touchy topic and opinions vary from one to another. This is not the problem of this century, but later on… who knows. Anyway, we will not see the results.

    As about the result of the first match… even though I work with that, I still think humans will be the winner. I just hope I will be still on this world to see the match 🙂

  6. u0204734
    Woo Handa, Raymond

    Wow, the match between human and robots should be very interesting!!! It is quite interesting to find out whether the robots have the capability and technique to win the human counterpart.

    However, I still very convinced that the human soccer game is still a beautiful game to watch. The reasons are that there are many controversial referee decisions, controversial goals are being allowed and the diving of players who attemp to cheat under the eye of referee. This make the game more interesting to watch and
    world cup 2006 germany is approaching. I think it is a much anticipated event for the soccer fans out there.

  7. u0204593 Chiam Lee Chuan
    I would agreed with Lipien. While the idea of robots is exciting, but i stongly doubt that robots would be ever produce that level of creativity and originality that a human is only capable of. Soccer robots are only programmed to score goal in a most efficient way, thus they will alway be lacking in the unpredictable style of play exhibit by human and that’s the thing we enjoyed about soccer.

  8. U0303893 Aung Myo Lwin, well robot soccer, that is one of the growing research area in robotics. I don’t want to say that it is impossible to have a humanoid soccer team at year 2050. However, it will be a very challenging task for world robotics society. There are some considerations that I want to post here. First one is, will the robot be able to tackle? will human dare to tackle robots? How robot will dispocesses the ball from the human? How about ball control? How about heading? Will robot do body push? Hianz…I can still come out a lot more questions, that is along way for humanoid advancements to reach such stage. I feel that not only in robotics technology advancements, other technology advancments such as communications, material science, embedded systems and so on. Anyway, I hope to watch a soccer game between human and humanoid.

  9. u0204635 Tan Pei-En

    Wow… Seems like humanoid soccer provokes a lot of interest..

    I think the questions of individuality and creativity bely a much deeper philosophical question – what does it mean to be human?

    Functionally, I think it is only a matter of time before an effective team of humanoids is assembled and designed to play soccer effectively. It could be 50 years, 100 years, or more, but conceptually there is no difficulty with the notion (although technically there are lots and lots of challenges).

    But no matter how complex the robots get, all their behavior is just a causal result from initial states and the pre-programmed algorithm. Sure, the algorithm can be programmed to learn and become more adapted to the environment, but the point is that given a certain environment, there exists only one way which the robot will learn, and that is the direct result of the way it has been programmed.

    To the untrained eye, the complex algorithms may allow the humanoid robot to exhibit behavior analogous to individuals. But insofar as we mean abstract things like free choice when we talk about individuality, it is just an illusion. Machines, no matter how complex, are still deterministic.

    Think about it this way. Given the initial positions of the robot, the environment, and the way they have been programmed, the outcome of the game is COMPLETELY DETERMINED from the start. We just dont know it because it is too difficult to compute in practical. But conceptually, we know that everything is, so-called, predestined in a robot soccer game.

    Thus, while it may be interesting to watch and scientifically beneficial to the world, give me the Rooneys, the Ronaldos and the Ruuds any day.

    Could you feel exhilaration for a robot when it scores? Even if you do, it doesn’t feel a thing. Can you empathize with the agony of the player whose attempted equalizer comes of the post at the 91st minute of the game, condemning his team to defeat, if it is just a robot? What about the sheer weight of responsibility that falls on the shoulders of each player when the game goes to penalties? Would you feel it, if underneath those shoulders were mere chips and circuitry?

    So, by all means, experiment on humanoid soccer, try it out with humans for all you want, but don’t touch the World Cup.

    Leave the beautiful game alone. 🙂

  10. Name: Ooi Yi Xiang Patrick
    Matriculation Number: U036703E
    Email UserID: u0303375

    Personally, I feel that robot soccer should be used primarily to study the behaviour of distributed autonomous robots and how they interact with each other and how to perform optimally as a team. The entertainment factor is just a side bonus.

    Like someone mentioned, the beautiful game is so much nicer when humans are involved. Robot soccer can never be the same as soccer played by real humans. If I want to play a non-real game of soccer I might as well play a game of FIFA or CM. Without the emotions and the histories of the players & teams involved, the game wouldn’t have life to it. If all robots in a certain position performed in exactly the same way too, then it becomes meaningless to talk about star players and lousy players. The game just doesn’t seem right anymore.


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